Thoughts by Venus

On 22/03/2023 at 7:54 PM, Venus Nymphs said:

 

Hmm you're seriously limiting yourself there. Sex isn't just about what someone looks like. It's about natural chemistry and how good they are at the act. Also this is kind of a misogynistic way to view a woman tbh. Whilst sex work is a service and you certainly can pay to receive whatever you want I hate customers who think like this, makes the job awful. 

It's not limiting at all. There's many very attractive workers who provide great service and chemistry. I'm very appreciative of time spent with those women who would generally be way out of my league.

1 hour ago, Jazzman351 said:

It's not limiting at all. There's many very attractive workers who provide great service and chemistry. I'm very appreciative of time spent with those women who would generally be way out of my league.

 

Bro no one is out of your league because of how they look LOL. Are you living in 1950?

On 24/03/2023 at 10:53 AM, Venus Nymphs said:

it's actually self confidence in yourself

Too right. The most successful fellas I've known (and they were mind mindbogglingly successful) were physically defective one way or another but undaunted, and pulled 10s whenever they encountered them.

Getting back on topic ........

 

Paid sex does allow for a "tailored experience" so one can get the particular services one wants and leave out the unwanted services. With paid sex the range of activities is the intersection between what a working lady is comfortable providing and the activities the punter enjoys. For unpaid sex the range of activities is the intersection between what both parties enjoy. The range of activities may thus be very different. 

 

I have had a number of ladies that I have seen with some regularity of the past 25 years. I am quite sure that the sex would, in every case, been quite different if they had been unpaid encounters. The range of activities would have been different as all of those ladies had broader sexual tastes than I do. You could say that I seek limited services and particular services.

 

 

Well said. To those who make that comment. They have no clue what we have been through. Yes many might seek your services because we have had no luck in civvy world. But men see sex workers for a multitude of reasons.

On 25/3/2023 at 2:41 PM, Venus Nymphs said:

 

Bro no one is out of your league because of how they look LOL. Are you living in 1950?

You might get some interesting opposing opinions on this. 

Strong 4 - I'm young enough to still be on the dating apps and yeah I would say that I probably had to spend a few hundred per casual fling with a non-sex worker. Of course, I don't think you should necessarily view it as just 'how much did I pay before I got a root' because there is a stronger social dynamic than just a regular punt. It's a bit more like paying for a dinner date with a WL I think. There are also other possible perks - I wouldn't feel comfortable doing BBFS with a sex worker but yes with the right 'volunteer' (as the OP puts it). Don't have to worry about things like clock-watching etc. Usually if you're having sex with someone you met off an app, the chemistry is good (not always...)

 

It does go 2 ways though - I remember 1 year I slept with around 5 girls and went down on all of them... but I think only 2 of them gave me head in return. Not as hot as some WLs, less catered to your fantasy/desire and then the emotional baggage too. Nowadays I do both - apps and punting, just for variety. In the past I have solely punted or solely used apps but I'm trying to get the best of both worlds now!

The list is much longer than those five items.
 

Most men (I don’t know any women who do) that I encounter who frequent SWers do so because their marriage doesn’t satisfy them. They are looking for an outlet for their sexual needs that doesn’t involve a relationship, a risk of failure, a risk of exposure, or any kind of risk to their otherwise perfectly tolerable marriage. 

 

The discussion of looks is a tough one. I personally have found that physical attractiveness is not a predictor of overall attractiveness at all. If had much better experiences with average looking women than model-looking women. However, I still find myself drawn towards SWs that visually appeal to me and sometimes I regret it afterwards. Human nature is what it is. 

Visiting a FS Parlor is Great, cause there are no strings, enjoy an hour or two of lust, and get on with life and enjoy doing what I like with my time. Why put up with constant whinging, unreasonable demands of having a relationship! I have a couple of regulars and its nice as I can converse with them too, and adds that pleasant touch to lusty sex..

5 hours ago, frnd2chat said:

no strings, enjoy an hour or two of lust, and get on with life

+1

5 hours ago, frnd2chat said:

I have a couple of regulars and its nice as I can converse with them too, and adds that pleasant touch to lusty sex..

+1

 

One of my regulars (a single mum, we have son's the same age) said to me the other day (referring to our energetic intense sex) "you(man) enjoy it, I enjoy it" we then chat a bit about what is happening in ours lives, say our goodbyes and then repeat again in a week or two. 

I have another regular who I have a similar interactions with.

 

So both client and punter get something positive out of it. We are not ever going to ever have a relationship, we are not going to spend more than an hour or so a week together. No more, no less! It works because it is just a regular short encounter amongst all the other normal stuff in life.  

Im more a 1 and 4 . When you consider going on dating apps , meeting people who seem nice online but could result in nothing but a waste of time because they are nutcases. This goes for both sexes. Online dating can be very successful in getting roots, but is time consuming. 

Its much easier to hire a professional in the field, where if you're polite you'll hit it off . Especially for us people who are time poor and want a guaranteed root.

Very good article!

 

I believe the SB is the best of both worlds you can have a pleasant time rarely have time limit, set amount from the get go so $500 for overnight and BBFS if you are game.  Mine are usually long term so $400 for overnight 1 night a week!!  YesI am still paying but I like the dinner and the build up.  Tinder or dating sites don't work for me as I can't seem to entice younger ladies.  I am in my 60s not a stud or anything no six pack but my wallet is a little fatter than some 23 yr old at the local and i will treat her well. IMO of course

Sex with a WL is no different than with someone u may pickup socially. Sex isnt just about looks, but chemistry and communication and wanting to put in the effort to please a partner and endure they get off as well. If  that doesnt exist then the sex with a WL will be just as CRAP as with a CIVVIE. One word here R E S P E C T> and its not just a one way srteet!!

Thanks for the balanced and brilliant blog. 
The transparent transaction for  a SW services is to me the only way for any sex for me. Im in a sex free loving fun relationship . My wife is evolved from low to zero interest. Im ugly , cant dance so mo great lover.
The other option is divorce, not for me. I need the GFE and i find it here. 
Ive permission literally so long as its no one we know and she doesn't become aware . 

The point is people that judge sex workers and their clients really know nothing about it and are ofter just hypocritical .   

Interesting thread. I thoroughly agree with PlayDohBalls .

My take is that nothing in this world is free, there is a cost somewhere and it's just the price and consequences that vary.

All been pointed out, sometimes a drink and a chat may be enough, then she clings...other times a cordon bleu meal and concert leave you shaking hands with the unemployed.

My regulars over the years, a couple of whom are still in contact after their retirement were more than sex dolls, there was that connection that often gets mentioned in reviews. ( No. No "ongoing benefits", just a nice connection without strings, and that is the best). One lady I regularly had coffee with until she married and moved OS, we had god sex, good conversation, but there was no way either of us could have stood living with the other. 

Humans /Relationships are weird alright...but anything, especially sex, for "free", nah...

As Charlie said, ‘ I pay them to leave in the morning’. 

One of the questions I sometimes ask myself is if I started trying then would I get much free sex. I expect the answer is I probably would, because there are others doing the same, but would that get me sex with skilled attractive 20 and 30 year olds. The answer is no, but maybe I could find older women that I liked and would keep me happy. One thing that doesn't impress me is that we have a lot of Caucasian women in their 40s, 50s, 60s who are well educated, but seem very unhappy. It's the government, or the opposition, or big business, or their family. They want a man so they can tell him all this, and he can say "Yes, dear.".

2 hours ago, bushmaster said:

One of the questions I sometimes ask myself is if I started trying then would I get much free sex. I expect the answer is I probably would, because there are others doing the same, but would that get me sex with skilled attractive 20 and 30 year olds. The answer is no, but maybe I could find older women that I liked and would keep me happy. One thing that doesn't impress me is that we have a lot of Caucasian women in their 40s, 50s, 60s who are well educated, but seem very unhappy. It's the government, or the opposition, or big business, or their family. They want a man so they can tell him all this, and he can say "Yes, dear.".

Yes give me a 20-30 year old any day paid for or free. I don’t care either way . 

Men are virtually horny till the day they die and cause of viagra we are able to keep getting it up to be able satisfy that feeling. Women will have children and hit  menopause and the majority of them will have their sex drive diminish . So if you are in a marriage and thats how your missus turns out there goes you "free" sex. I think you will find age is a major factor with the situation of the "free" sex and looks also plays a bigger part then what you are willing to admit. I am 40 and single and a young looking 40 at that , In my teenage years and early 20's I  used  do quite well with finding myself  "free" sex with different women. Then id find an outstanding one which would evolve into a long term relationship and there swas a few of these  through my mid 20's and early 30's. My last serious relationship ended when I was 36.

Since then you could count  the amount of times I have had sex where there hasn't been a direct transaction for it on one hand.

You cant say its not about looks.  On dating apps 100% its about looks  I was lucky to be getting a match on tinder once a month then  lucky to get a response from that match at all or it turns out to be a fake. The friends I have that are my age are settled down with kids so I now have a much younger circle of friends to maintain a healthy social life so the women who are in my demographics are 20''s early 30's at most and which is what im generally attracted to.

Even though most dont believe me when I tell them my age as well as being  charismatic and confident they lack sexual desire towards me. Im not going waste my time on someone my age who im not overly attracted to and had a ton of baggage nor tolerate being  in a miserable relationship for the free sex.

Basically im left as a starving sex addict if I dont pay for it... which does totally suck and is something I keep to myself. I also guarantee a lot of the guys my age seeing escorts  that are single are exactly the same and cant get it elsewhere either.  But they are never gonna let you know that cause frankly it's embarrassing .  There is also no chemistry when im making a first time  booking.  Im booking them probably 80% based on their appearance and  the rest on the service they will provide.If I book them from what I can see on their ad. Sure there may be chemistry once we meet which does make it more enjoyable and If I book them again there obviously is. At the same time if she doesn't find me attractive no matter how nice I am, once the service has been  provided and its over i can be left feeling worse than I was before the booking which is the last thing you want happening when you've had to pay for it to get it. 

On 24/12/2023 at 3:10 PM, cacteye said:

Men are virtually horny till the day they die and cause of viagra we are able to keep getting it up to be able satisfy that feeling. Women will have children and hit  menopause and the majority of them will have their sex drive diminish . So if you are in a marriage and thats how your missus turns out there goes you "free" sex. I think you will find age is a major factor with the situation of the "free" sex and looks also plays a bigger part then what you are willing to admit. I am 40 and single and a young looking 40 at that , In my teenage years and early 20's I  used  do quite well with finding myself  "free" sex with different women. Then id find an outstanding one which would evolve into a long term relationship and there swas a few of these  through my mid 20's and early 30's. My last serious relationship ended when I was 36.

Since then you could count  the amount of times I have had sex where there hasn't been a direct transaction for it on one hand.

You cant say its not about looks.  On dating apps 100% its about looks  I was lucky to be getting a match on tinder once a month then  lucky to get a response from that match at all or it turns out to be a fake. The friends I have that are my age are settled down with kids so I now have a much younger circle of friends to maintain a healthy social life so the women who are in my demographics are 20''s early 30's at most and which is what im generally attracted to.

Even though most dont believe me when I tell them my age as well as being  charismatic and confident they lack sexual desire towards me. Im not going waste my time on someone my age who im not overly attracted to and had a ton of baggage nor tolerate being  in a miserable relationship for the free sex.

Basically im left as a starving sex addict if I dont pay for it... which does totally suck and is something I keep to myself. I also guarantee a lot of the guys my age seeing escorts  that are single are exactly the same and cant get it elsewhere either.  But they are never gonna let you know that cause frankly it's embarrassing .  There is also no chemistry when im making a first time  booking.  Im booking them probably 80% based on their appearance and  the rest on the service they will provide.If I book them from what I can see on their ad. Sure there may be chemistry once we meet which does make it more enjoyable and If I book them again there obviously is. At the same time if she doesn't find me attractive no matter how nice I am, once the service has been  provided and its over i can be left feeling worse than I was before the booking which is the last thing you want happening when you've had to pay for it to get it. 

I'm pretty much in the same boat.  Got divorced.  No kids.  

The thing with me is that i wouldn't mind hooking up with a woman close to my age, maybe minus 10 years but i can't be bothered with the emotional rollercoaster relationships come with.

I recently had a discussion at work about relationships and one person said, "Thats ok, you'll meet someone.  Don't give up." I was like WTF are you talking about?  I said you are assuming that i want to go into a relationship.  And i don't because i'm not on any dating apps and i've been on one date this whole year.  I don't make any effort so i'm not expecting it to magically come to me. 

And i told them that most people i know who are in a relationship are miserable.  But they don't tell you that.

 

I don't mind being a SD every once in a while but that comes with girls who think they're not prostituting themselves and deserve the world on a golden platter.  Again, could not be bothered with people like that.

 

So we pay for it because we can't get it for free.  Big deal.  It's the cheapest way to get sex really.  Not many girls want to sleep with a 40 year old for free.  We're starting to loose our looks.  Even though i'm in great shape and have all my hair and look in my late 30's, I still couldn't compete with a 25 year old man.  It's biology and girls will gravitate to who they're attracted to.  I don't care, it comes with age and everyone will be in that boat one day.  In fact, that 25 year old man might be getting it for free today; fall in love and in 10 years he's divorced with 2 kids and broke as fk.

Be careful what you wish for.

 

The important thing is accepting that we're all going to get old one day and that is reality and if we need to have our physical needs met, then there's always prostitution.   

20 minutes ago, Jeff6969 said:

I'm pretty much in the same boat.  Got divorced.  No kids.  

The thing with me is that i wouldn't mind hooking up with a woman close to my age, maybe minus 10 years but i can't be bothered with the emotional rollercoaster relationships come with.

I recently had a discussion at work about relationships and one person said, "Thats ok, you'll meet someone.  Don't give up." I was like WTF are you talking about?  I said you are assuming that i want to go into a relationship.  And i don't because i'm not on any dating apps and i've been on one date this whole year.  I don't make any effort so i'm not expecting it to magically come to me. 

And i told them that most people i know who are in a relationship are miserable.  But they don't tell you that.

 

I don't mind being a SD every once in a while but that comes with girls who think they're not prostituting themselves and deserve the world on a golden platter.  Again, could not be bothered with people like that.

 

So we pay for it because we can't get it for free.  Big deal.  It's the cheapest way to get sex really.  Not many girls want to sleep with a 40 year old for free.  We're starting to loose our looks.  Even though i'm in great shape and have all my hair and look in my late 30's, I still couldn't compete with a 25 year old man.  It's biology and girls will gravitate to who they're attracted to.  I don't care, it comes with age and everyone will be in that boat one day.  In fact, that 25 year old man might be getting it for free today; fall in love and in 10 years he's divorced with 2 kids and broke as fk.

Be careful what you wish for.

 

The important thing is accepting that we're all going to get old one day and that is reality and if we need to have our physical needs met, then there's always prostitution.   

high fives to that! The only thing i miss in this stage of life is having sex on tap which I know most my friends in relationships  dont really get so much anyway.  

I couldn't stay in a relationship with someone if I Iwasn't able to turn the tap on as I pleased and  unfortunately being a sexaddict I cant turn it on as Imuch as I please cause the water bill would send me broke 

I get laid more than most of my married friends and they put up with endless crap along the way. 

1 hour ago, niceguy0070 said:

I get laid more than most of my married friends and they put up with endless crap along the way. 

Bingo!

On 26/12/2023 at 9:13 AM, Jeff6969 said:

I'm pretty much in the same boat.  Got divorced.  No kids.  

The thing with me is that i wouldn't mind hooking up with a woman close to my age, maybe minus 10 years but i can't be bothered with the emotional rollercoaster relationships come with.

I recently had a discussion at work about relationships and one person said, "Thats ok, you'll meet someone.  Don't give up." I was like WTF are you talking about?  I said you are assuming that i want to go into a relationship.  And i don't because i'm not on any dating apps and i've been on one date this whole year.  I don't make any effort so i'm not expecting it to magically come to me. 

And i told them that most people i know who are in a relationship are miserable.  But they don't tell you that.

 

I don't mind being a SD every once in a while but that comes with girls who think they're not prostituting themselves and deserve the world on a golden platter.  Again, could not be bothered with people like that.

 

So we pay for it because we can't get it for free.  Big deal.  It's the cheapest way to get sex really.  Not many girls want to sleep with a 40 year old for free.  We're starting to loose our looks.  Even though i'm in great shape and have all my hair and look in my late 30's, I still couldn't compete with a 25 year old man.  It's biology and girls will gravitate to who they're attracted to.  I don't care, it comes with age and everyone will be in that boat one day.  In fact, that 25 year old man might be getting it for free today; fall in love and in 10 years he's divorced with 2 kids and broke as fk.

Be careful what you wish for.

 

The important thing is accepting that we're all going to get old one day and that is reality and if we need to have our physical needs met, then there's always prostitution.   

The problem is that the women who would be relationship material are generally all taken. I wouldn’t mind what I call a fucking relationship, where people have separate places to live, and they use them to fuck. Otherwise they go places together, and they aren’t forced to do things that end with arguments like how much money you are spending and shit like that.

11 hours ago, bushmaster said:

The problem is that the women who would be relationship material are generally all taken.

Thats true.  I also find women saying exactly the same thing.  Though i don't know if thats true or one of the other thousand things they complain about.