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18 hours ago, Lost Boy said:

I watched a movie about sw recently and one of the recurring themes was that a lot of customers get violent or angry. is this true and how often does it happen? And what kind of person (age race etc) is most likely to behave that way?

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6780843/Dentist-killed-ex-stuffing-suitcase-cruel-former-patients-say.html

 

This is the 100% classic Indian you don't want here. 

 

We have enough of our own domestic violence perpetrators without bringing more in like this and making the numbers even worse.

 

What some people don't realise is that Indian violent men act differently to Australian violent men. If you can't talk about the problem because wah political correctness then you can't share tips on how to avoid these people or how to deal with them. How you deal with a guy like this is different to how you deal with a violent Aussie bloke. Many women are unaware of the tell tale signs of you're coming across a bad Indian. And we're not allowed to share tips because we might offend someone.

 

Imagine that, you can't share tips on how to spot a violent Indian because you might offend the man who might beat you and kill you. 

 

This guy has all the red flags. Things that jump out at me from this article are 'rude' and 'invasive questions.' Now, an Aussie male violence guy is often actually charming. Not the ones who jump out of bushes, the ones who date you then it turns out they are violent clingers. They can be charming, polite, good company and use love as a weapon. 

 

Indian guys are different. They are often rude and they do stuff like ask invasive questions. Many women don't realise the rudeness and questions is a warning sign. Many women are good people and not racist and just assume 'oh he's just foreign that's how they are,' That's not how they are. Good Indians don't do that. 

 

The invasive questions thing is full on. We need to be educating women to look out for Indians who do that as it increases the chance he's one of the bad ones. But there is no way that the sex worker organisations would ever be allowed to put out a fact sheet about this. 

 

As for women who say stuff like "oh everyone can be bad and it hardly happens and blah blah blah ' maybe recognise that some of you do higher end sex work and you're not exactly on the front lines of sex work. The experiences of street workers and the lower end brothels is different to the fancy world of nice private escorts and we'd appreciate some moral support not being told we're imagining things or we're racist. I don't think some of the girls in this thread even know what an invasive Indian is or what they act like.

 

I don't make the statistics. The statistics are that sex workers have a higher rate of violence and it's usually at the lower end. I'm not advertising so I'm not going to put a gloss on the realities of sex work to not deter my future clients. The reality is our job can come with risk and abuse. 

 

Now, I like my job. I really like it. I'm willing to take the risks and deal with them. The risk to reward ratio is fine with me. What I don't like is the general industry discussion dominated by a certain kind of sex worker with an agenda. Some of us sex workers are marginalised within our own industry. 

 

I guess it depends what punters want this thread to be. Do you want real answers or do you want fantasy answers and public relations? Do girls want me to leave this thread so it can just be a glossy fantasy? What are we doing here? Are we discussing the real insight into sex work or are we selling a fantasy? What do people want to do? 

 

Some of the answers to these questions are going to be unappealing like, yes violence and abuse can be a serious issue. I'm not someone who can lie so I either tell the truth or stop bothering with this thread if I'm expected to toe the line of fantasy answers where everything is peachy. What do people want gloss or truth?

 

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Scarlett B Wilde

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Certainly a thought provoking post and issues with violence of any sort shouldn't 'be glossed over'. As a fellow worker I see and regularly hear the relative ease that abuse and violence is thrown our way.

Discouraging to hear a fellow worker feels they are marginalised with their own industry, and hope that offence is never taken when a fellow worker may have different views or experiences with the industry. 

I feel to the stigma surrounding our industry, make it a little easier to dismiss those in an vulnerable environment, as stated in he post, and it is rewarding to see the government taking steps towards education  - https://www.respect.gov.au/ 

The debate of whether a client seeks fantasy or truth ? 
As an adult can they not make their own minds up about that ?
Do they not have the freedom of choice within a free market to decide what's best for them ?

My answer is that the fantasy is part of the truth. An while I feel there's no need for shame or discouragement around that, if said fantasy comes at the cost of a workers's health, something is not right.
 Why does a worker not feel safe ? Do they not feel they can go to the police ? They can be supported in a court of law ? or as stated in post. Do they just not feel supported by their own brethren within the industry ?  
 Do we need to place government anti violence campaign posters in brothels to give an environment which supports fellow workers, and the clients that frequent the work place a sense of brotherhood to offer support when seeing a worker the victim of physical abuse ?


There are countless articles about the sexual violence problem in India - We don't want that here.

https://theconversation.com/how-to-tackle-indias-sexual-violence-epidemic-it-starts-with-sex-education-114381 

https://medium.com/@niliach/how-i-started-a-sex-education-revolution-in-india-c675bfba6ea4

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/theres-no-easy-answer-to_b_5609437

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